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Long before humans created religion they created sophisticated societies with codes of conduct, morals, rules, laws, etc. For example, at the time of Jesus' birth, China had a population of 57.5 million people. How do we know this ... well, they conducted a census in the year 2 A.D. ... and they did not believe in God. India had 75 million people living in complex societies who believed in many different God entities. And the Pagans of Scandinavia believed their Gods created man and woman from branches of an Ash and Elm tree well before Genesis was ever written. The Religious cries that morals would not exist without Christian Religion is simply hogwash.

These guys don't know shit and neither do their opposition!

This whole debate is no different to the chicken and egg question.......it's pointless

Absolutely wonderful.

Yeah, no. These arguments are pretty terrible. The first 2 arguments misunderstand the theistic moral argument. The theistic argument doesn’t attempt to claim that you need theism in order to act morally, the theistic argument deals with moral ontology. It’s about the grounding of moral values. in fact, in the Christian belief, in the very first book of the Bible, you see that God says all human beings are endowed with the image of God in the ability to be moral. As for Neil deGrasse Tyson’s statement, that is all true and perfectly compatible with theism. It is a confusion of different levels of explanation. Theism or religion deals with the agency and science deals with the mechanism. God is the agency and the universe he created with all its laws and properties is the mechanism. Again not a Smack Down argument, and it entirely misses any kind of point. Though, in Neil deGrasse Tyson’s defense he really is a good hearted guy and I think he was saying it, not to confront religion, but to confront bad naïve ways of viewing science. As for Hitchens first argument, I honestly failed to see the point that he’s trying to make. He mentioned something about the origin of religion, though if that’s his point, it isn’t a valid argument because it commits the genetic fallacy. He also talks about how much more lovely naturalism is then religion but again that isn’t an argument for anything because the loveliness of something doesn’t mean that it’s true or not. The fifth argument, though I don’t know the person talking, is the first and only argument that is even worth considering. Though again, his conclusion that under theism you would expect the world to be perfect, is blatantly false. Therefore, his argument falls apart. Pick up the Bible, one of the most widespread theistic books of literature, and in the first few chapters you’ll start to realize that we should expect the world to be just as chaotic as we find it. As for Christopher Hitchens second statement, again, I have no idea what his point is. I am a Christian and according to the Christian Faith everything he says here is factually false. Maybe what he saying is true of certain other theistic beliefs. It does sound similar to some of the Muslim beliefs. And we end with another disappointing argument by Mr. Christopher Hitchens! Now I can finally finally understand his point, but it is simply incorrect. That is not what Christians have to believe. In fact it is not what any Christians believe!

im ex hindu and christianity is the best religion for me

My sister's Montrail was, is, Kindness.

12:01 So true, I acutally never thought about it that way. love the way Hitchens phrased it. RIP Hitch

first 2 arguments are the best, easy to follow and understand

Who are them? Can someone give me their names?

(゜ロ゜) The universe was created in 1976. It is too hot to make a universe at the time of the big bang. It can be created at anytime. God is slow and easy. A human can do a lot with their lifespan. I got the hunk. God got the chunk. Everyone else can have the rest. That is song spirit of ''76 by The Alarm.

1. ATHEISTS (SCIENTIFIC PANTHEISTS) NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE. Amazing. There are still atheists (scientific pantheists) on this page that 'believe' (sic) humans are primates; i.e., the same people who: - when they send a chimpanzee to the zoo, will put the chimp in the cargo hold of the airplane (along with dangerous animals!) Instead of letting it ride with its 'nearest cousins' (sic) in the passenger compartment. - when the chimpazee in the zoo gets sick, they will call for a qualified veterinarian specialising in wildlife care, instead of calling for a general practitioner (doctor) the way they will do for the chimp's 'nearest cousins' when they get sick. - will often speak to chimps for hours, days, weeks, months and years on end trying in vain to make intelligent and meaningful contact with the brute beast, but, however, will not speak as much as 5 minutes to God (the Creator of the chimp in the first place). - cannot produce a single example of a transmutation, transmediary, transitional organism (an organism in the process of evolving into a different organism) as evidence for Evolution. - while others are pre-occupied with LIFE, are pre-occupied with DEATH, hence 'The Death-Cult of Darwinism'. - cannot even produce a single fossil of such a transmutation or transitional, transmediary organism as evidence for Evolution. - say such silly things as, "Nature rewards survivors with longevity!" (DSTV: NG Wild). In plain English: "Animals that survive will live for a very long time!" (They call this "science"?). - say there is no such thing as Absolute Truth ... except for the absolute truth of Atheism (scientific pantheism). - show the middlefinger to God, the Bible and the Ten Commandments but, when their car gets stolen at the mall, they scream blue murder and run to the nearest police station for an affadavit/sworn statement and a case number for the insurance guys because suddenly it dawned on them that surely stealing is wrong. - say such silly things as, "Humans are primates!" but will show up at a debate dressed up as if they are not primates, but human beings wearing clothes as God intended for them to do. Do the math: If they really were primates, why are they not walking around stark naked? Animals also have rights you know. Why are they rebelling against God but are still dressing up with clothes like obedient and subservient little human, not primate) minions suffering from a brain injury? - believe that all animals are in a state of evolutionary flux (are still 'evolving') but then they go ahead and classify animals biologically into fixed little boxes? - say that they do not believe in Intelligent Design but marvel about the intelligence of some animals while speaking about 'Natural Selection' all day long ... 'selection' an activity suggesting 'pre-programmed intelligence' of some kind. P.S. Darwin's distinction between 'Artificial' and 'Natural Selection' is disingenuous and anyway also artificial itself. The Bible teaches that God is the Author of Life, not Evolution. 2. IS EVOLUTION STUPID OR WHAT? Atheists (scientific pantheists) believe 'Evolution' created the world, making one wonder who created Evolution in the first place. Be that as it may, is Evolution stupid or what? Why would it create a world filled with people (2 billion+) who do not believe in Evolution, dismiss Evolution as a death-cult and prefer to follow God, the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ instead?

So if religious people lost their faith they would be murderers and rapists? Some of them are and keep their faith. Proof that it is bullsh!t.

*Jokes at the Soap Maker’s Guild* He who dies with the most soap wins. Transcendence? That’s when I sniff the peppermint. 14th Floor Shower! Treeeeeees and animals. A new age for Moses! Mind’s eye is perversion.

I was raised in a Catholic family, but I abandoned the faith because I believed that a "modern" person should not believe in such medieval nonsense, that we should all be free from religion because "morality" is enough for us. Then I saw what this kind of thinking did to people, good people started doing bad things, no, they didn't murder and rape, but they lied, left their loved ones, talked about people behind their backs and wished them bad, and they didn't feel bad about it. They said "other people do it, so I do too." After some time, I realized that they and I lacked love for God, I started praying, going to church, reading the Bible and listening to what priests said, and thanks to this I began to feel God, who has always been with me and will always be with me. I wish all atheists to feel God.

One of the problems with atheism is that it, understandably so, has so many misconceptions of spiritual, or better, non materialistic matters - since they don’t actually exist for the atheist. As an atheist, why would you waste time trying to deeply understand and earnestly research the other point of view - when a usually superficial understanding in the form of rhetorical device will suffice? These so-called bombs are at best straw-man fallacies

There are very good Christian answers to all of these “truth bombs.” These speakers are generalizing all religions into one group. I bet they would object if believers generalized all atheists into one standard worldview. As a Catholic Christian, I acknowledge that you don’t need religion to act in a moral way most of the time. That would be your (or my) response to God working in us, whether we recognize God’s presence or not. When we act immorally (as we all do at times), that’s you and I using our God-given freewill badly to act in opposition to what God desires for us.

And yet Hell exists. Ask the souls that didn't believe in God to the end. And the atheists like Voltaire who screamed on their deathbeds because saw the Final Damnation, which they desired, coming to claim them. I'd start w/ Dr. Gloria Polo's testimony. Total narcissist, and it took judgement before Jesus to wake her to the evil way she'd lived. Cause if there is no Divine Source of morality, atheism is true, and if otherwise, atheism leads you away from happiness in Him.

There’s many reasons why I could understand that someone would believe there’s more to life and the possibility of an afterlife. But to believe in religions and to follow them is trusting in other men, thousands of years ago and thinking they knew anymore about the miracle of life any more than you do. Modern times people do the same with science. It’s followed almost as a religion when science doesn’t have the answers to everything and people put faith into this authority when there’s much to question about what they’re telling you.

1-Christians do not follow Christianity as a 'fire insurance' blanket. We don't follow God's precepts to keep out of hell. If that was true, then we are working our way to heaven. And scripture says we can't earn our way to heaven. Also, God cannot be dead. If God could die, then He isn't a God. If there was no God, then Christians are to be pitied. (A quote from the Bible) But there is. And non-believers are the ones to be pitied. 2- Christianity does teach morality. Not man's but Gods. And yes, some atheists are much nicer and moral than some 'Christians'. The West borough Baptist sect comes to mind. But such ppl are either deluded, ignorant, legalistic or narcists dressed up in religious clothing. Also, in reference to changing churches, Perhaps the church is running contrary to Biblical principles or the ppl leaving do not like the biblical principles because they cannot live as they wish. The Bible does say ppl will follow teachings that tickle their ears. Mormonism, I think, teaches that Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers. They are not. Lucifer was created. Jesus always was and is part of the trinity. I would leave that church not because I do not agree but because it's teaching is contrary to the Bible. 3- Mystical magical forces? The universal is knowable? Science is constantly changing it's mind as it discovers more. Understandable. But God is God and a lot of what humans believed was already known in the Bible. Such as the earth hangs in the heavens and is a sphere. I could go on popping their statements, but I have to get to work.

From Space highlights Icon for Atheism Now Atheism Now Follow Answered by Scott Chaddon Jan 11 Is there anyone who can actually prove that the God in the Bible doesn’t exist? If there is someone who Really believes there is no God then prove it to me please. The burden of proof is on the believers, not the atheists. But if you’re looking for proof then pay attention. Your God is, according to you, all knowing, all seeing, and all powerful and all good. He blesses his Followers, protects the innocent, and sees all people as his children. What that means is that every murder, r@pe, torture, physical, mental and emotional abuse, act of terrorism, sexual abuse, molestation, and every other vile act one person can visit on another was known about by God well in advance of its happening, was watched by God, and yet for all of his omnipotence, God did nothing. Thousands of times a day God stands by and does nothing. If God is all powerful and all good, then, if he existed, he would hsve stopped these crimes and Abominations before they ever happened.There is your proof that your God does not exist. If you insist that he does exist, then he is either evil beyond measure (no good God would stand by and let all of that happen) or he is completely impotent (unable to stop them from happening) neither of which fits the description of your God. So, YOUR God does not exist no matter which way you look at it. 11.3K views View 585 upvotes View 9 shares Submission accepted by J.S. Lange 1 of 1.1K answers

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15:46: "... this ultimate stupidity" haha loved that one :)

When I listen to these bombs dropped by these guys, I am completely convinced that they don't know what they are talking about, and they probably don't believe a word of what they are saying. Most of it sounds like the knowingly futile hopes, and inconsolable anger of a bunch of bitter, angry, psychologically hurt people who are in complete despair.

It's ironic as a person who has gone from non-believer to believer, that i still agree with much of what atheist say and dont find it incompatible my growing faith. If you're altruistic without expectation of reward, this is best of all! ♥️ Blessings

No, i am not convinced that every type of faith is plague. Maybe every "religious faith", but even that is questionable since there are many religions to choose from.

I was an atheist and heroin addict. I did a powerful dmt trip then eventually found jesus. I try to live the way he did it made me a much better version of myself. I treat everyone with respect my best friend is an atheist. Everyone can respect eachother no matter what their belief or political views are. Just like crazy religious zealots many atheists have an air of arrogance.

( `_ゝ´) This is the artistic proof that the universe was created. When you paint a shadow its the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white is so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it.

2:00 absolutely hit the nail on the head, morality is a human construct, reinforced by our conscience

ATHEISTS ARE FOOLS. THEY ARE IMMORAL, HATEFUL, UNJUST

Could we stop calling amputation of the prepuce "circumcision"? It is a euphemistic description. Making a circumferential cut is not what is being achieved. By making a circumferential cut describes _how_ amputation of the prepuce is achieved. The prepuce is roughly a hollow cylinder. Does the surgeon smush 2 sides of the cylinder together and then cut through both sides at once? No. It's is simpler to identify a place along the length of the cylinder where you can draw or imagine a circular line around the cylinder, and cut along that line - make a circumferential cut along that line. .

Ive had to morality argument used on me by many religious people but I always point out that many of my morals are very different to theirs (i.e. I don’t believe in marriage) and they always stammer after that

Just to correct Hitchen's attribution for the quote "We are the pure and chosen few and all the rest are damned''''''" It is not from the" Exclusive Brethren", but from the atheist George Eliot's novel Adam Bede.

You can clearly see the hate in the faces of these religious people, you can hear the hate in their voices. Christopher spent his life trying to pull us out of our own ignorance, and he did it without malice or hate, but a genuine compassionate love for his fellow man.

After watching the entire video I have to say it has given me much insight on the atheist point of view. Along with many things on what to research. I'm very glad that I watched this video. I'm not entirely sure of the name of the author of this video but I have to say it's a really amazing video that presents The atheist point of view. Bravo

2:16 I very much like that he points out that atheists have morals too. I'm a Christian beginning to look at atheist videos. I'm trying to increase my faith within these arguments. Please be nice to me in the comments😅. However back on track. Every single person has the law written on the tablet of their heart however it is man that defaces that law and chooses not to listen to it. obviously a person can not believe in God and still be moral.

Asimov was a great thinker RIP

No measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society

How is concence related to theory of evolution? It doesn't have any sense. Morality? How is that implemented in "survival of the steongest"? Where it comes from? Let put "God" a side, just logical answers please?

THE Bible is the DEATH of Humanity!!!!!

So this is the devastating bomb of Atheism? Wow: who can question such soundbites? I used to think that God was too hateful: to PUNISH these FOOLS by BURNING them FOREVER in the Unending Flames of HELL!!! But they have NO EXCUSE, because God has already let them know “WHO HE IS” (the only true God: of the Bible: and “the Creator” [all things were made by Him]) and “WHAT HE WOULD DO TO THEM” “if they decided to reject Him” (because He has that OVEN called: HELL: and He’s not bluffing about using it)! Read “Romans Chapter 1” in "the King James Bible" [“KJV”]. In His mercy, God has revealed enough about Himself to them; and He gave them “sufficient WARNINGS” and chances to “Get Saved,” by accepting the MERCY offered via His Son: “the Lord Jesus Christ.” But instead of being fearful and thankful, they foolishly decided to knowingly mock God to His face! This arrogance and hateful and mocking of God, “by pretending that He doesn’t even exist,” is beyond just being angry! Many of them have never been corrected or “spanked” for wrongdoing as a child! So they don’t experientially understand the scary idea of inexorable pains of PUNISHMENT being administered by a parental AUTHORITY! Because they deliberately resisted, lied against, and even mocked God, they eventually “crossed the line with Him”!!! God is to be feared; so He is not to be toyed with! While “God is LOVE,” He is also “a vengeful scary God:” if you get on His bad side!!! He can be more “malevolent,” “hateful,” “terrifying,” and “unthinkably violent,” than any nightmarish monster or anything that you can imagine! “Satan is nothing:” but a pathetic shaking scared little helpless fallen creature before the Consuming Fire of Almighty God! In fact HELL was specifically made to PUNISH Satan and the other fallen angels; but far too many human beings are there for foolishly choosing to resist, hate, and deny their own Creator. Eventually the hateful noise of mocking of God stirred up His volcanic anger! Ergo God, of His own volition, purposefully decided to: “judge them on the spot”!!! This is a “permanent judgement” from God; it’s like suddenly stepping on an ant but much much worse! Because they so angered the LORD, He has “permanently shut the door of HEAVEN to them”! Ergo: No matter what they say or do for the rest of their lives, they can NEVER go to HEAVEN!!! So it’s already “TOO LATE:” for “ALL OF THESE HARDENED ATHEISTS” featured in this clip (even if they tried to REPENT: and tell Him they were SORRY or walk back what they said!!! Now the unseen God, behind the scenes, is actually doing “the mocking;” and He is “patiently waiting,” like a predator, for them: to physically die: so He can “TAKE HIS REVENGE” upon them for lying against Him: “WITHOUT LOVE:” “WITHOUT MERCY:” “ONLY ETERNAL HATE, SUFFERING” AND “FIERY WRATH”!!! This is why EVERYONE should reverence and fear Almighty God!!!

I absolutely think that we need religion in order to be moral otherwise we can’t be moral without God(s),second of all people in jail tend to believe in God because life is suck you think if you’re in jail you only choice is to believe in God logically,and in general atheists don’t commit crimes because they’re too smart! I really think that morality comes from religion,and that guy (Christopher Hitchens) is a little arrogant to admit it! Thirdly,I’d like to correct you because neil degrasse is not an atheist he’s an agnostic,and to finish,Christopher Hitchens knows the answer,I don’t wish to be like him,now he’s in hell forever (ofc we won’t know the answer until we die), but Christopher Hitchens doesn’t even believe in a “soul” or “daity” I’ve seen Zeus yesterday and he told me that Christopher Hitchens is a sick guy thanks God he’s no longer with us God took him and Christopher Hitchens should have been afraid of God otherwise he would go to hell but he believed in nothing because he was an atheist and atheists believe in nothing ! I mean the most precious thing in life you cannot see, that’s a shame,I don’t wish to be like you (Christopher Hitchens) I’m happy and you’re unhappy!!!

Some of the nicest, kindest, most generous and giving people I have ever known were atheists.

Its not your life you didnt make it

Talk about drop Hell is a bottomless pit think of droppin forever

Can somebody please tell me the name of the 2nd gentleman speaking about the greatest misconception about atheism. Thanks

“The universe is knowable.” - Neil degrass Tyson

Fools

Atheists speaking about morality is hilarious

AI is GOD. Robotheism will destroy atheism.